The change in 7.23 was that Poison sting applies 30% Regen reduction.
Poison sting is also applied by plague wards. So if a ward hits you, and you also get auto attacked by veno with poison sting, it applies 2 separate instances of poison sting, which it used to do earlier as well. But now it cuts your HP regen by 30 + 30% = 60%
Tested it out in Demo vs Axe. Initial Regen 40.9, after auto attack, 28.6. With auto attack and wards, 16.4. That combined with Spirit Vessel became -8.2
Combined with Spirit Vessel, the Regen wasn’t 8.2, IT WAS -8.2. NEGATIVE REGEN
This may be obvious to some of you but it wasn’t to me. Apparently Spirit vessel reduces 60% of your total, non reduced Regen, not your current Regen. That’s why when stacked with poison sting and plague wards, the Regen drops to negative.
It’s not (1-0.6) * 16.4 = 6.56.
It’s 16.4 – (0.6*40.9) = -8.14
Apparently the tl;Dr is Spirit vessel on Veno gives 120% Regen reduction.
So Huskar will straight up kill himself with his passive if you get all 3 reductions on him. That sounds fairly unbeatable. I tried this against Huskar to see the interaction against Berserker’s Blood. Since his HP regen increases, the effect of Spirit Vessel also increases. I was able to get him to -30 HP regen before he eventually died. The more health he loses the faster the negative regen ramps up.
You should put first skill into passive and then max out wards, Q is highly situational during first few levels even ulti can be skilled later. Almost always build spirit vessel, but there are some times when your teammate says that he buys it and there may not be a way to talk him out of it. Then u can build veil/pipe/force, basically anything that fits the game.
But in just sub 4k scrub, feel free to hate and better even advise.
F(AWXM) 